tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5361417188517879449.post8818828063377278342..comments2023-10-24T18:59:56.584+08:00Comments on Game in the Brain: GURPS: where is the conversation skill?justin aquinohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03191474595831304520noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5361417188517879449.post-18164017991793796702012-03-31T12:51:17.419+08:002012-03-31T12:51:17.419+08:00Thanks for the clarification 5stonegames, Peter D ...Thanks for the clarification 5stonegames, Peter D and Bill, of course. <br />I guess my confusion stems from my own definition of the task, which are different because Its cross disciplinary, if you use GURPS skills mindset, and involves activities of using Intel Gathering: skills and not just influence skills like Psychology, Body Language, Intel Analysis (etc), interrogation, detect lies and justin aquinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03191474595831304520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5361417188517879449.post-9183835257726805172012-03-31T00:48:25.407+08:002012-03-31T00:48:25.407+08:00I took the liberty of forwarding a link to this po...I took the liberty of forwarding a link to this post to Bill Stoddard. Unfortunately, without a gmail login he can't comment, and asked me to post his response:<br /><br />Bill Said:<br />"There isn't a <i>skill</i> for conversation for the same reason that there isn't a skill for basic sexual activity (as opposed to advanced techniques, which have Erotic Art), or for walking, orPeter Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246000382321978462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5361417188517879449.post-12184875834147273902012-03-30T23:22:30.514+08:002012-03-30T23:22:30.514+08:00Sex Appeal is rather more broad than that, especia...Sex Appeal is rather more broad than that, especially in GURPS SE.<br /><br />Also,<br /><br /><i>using subtleties to make people give away indirect clues you need is not something tackled. </i><br /><br />Sure it is, check out p. 21 for Complementary Skills, and under Subtlety, p. 36. You just have to decide what you're rolling for, IMO - are you doing a deal but trying to pick up extra Peter Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246000382321978462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5361417188517879449.post-60455100017834320342012-03-30T13:01:47.238+08:002012-03-30T13:01:47.238+08:00Conversation in GURPS is handled by reaction check...Conversation in GURPS is handled by reaction checks as per social engineering.<br /><br />You add up your bonuses (for approach, charisma, looks, etc) and check the chart.<br /><br />The skills represent a more trained formalized approach.5stonegameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10694550968360550229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5361417188517879449.post-24942411268037294132012-03-30T09:52:16.889+08:002012-03-30T09:52:16.889+08:00My problem is that Sex-Appeal is not exactly a Men...My problem is that Sex-Appeal is not exactly a Mental Task; its an HT roll, stressing on appearance more than ability (because as an HT Ave skill, you really need the HT and appearance advantages). Merchant skillset is talking shop, but weaving that purpose with a multi-tasked goal like market analysis/interrogation etc. using subtleties to make people give away indirect clues you need is not justin aquinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03191474595831304520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5361417188517879449.post-8131926118827838372012-03-30T03:08:25.836+08:002012-03-30T03:08:25.836+08:00The answer is, the method and goals of the convers...The answer is, the method and goals of the conversation tell you your skill. Want to seduce someone? Sex Appeal. Sell them something? Merchant. Find out what they know? Interrogation. Impress them with your social graces? Probably S-F. "Conversation" as a skill is too broad, because it doesn't have a goal or an end result.<br /><br />IMO, anyway. You can always ask Bill Stoddard Peter Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246000382321978462noreply@blogger.com